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Thursday, July 31, 2008

Obama Mama Birthday

I just celebrated my 29th birthday. I’ve celebrated my 29th birthday for 24 consecutive year, so I have it down to a fine art. In honor of my special day, my two liberal daughters sent me birthday greetings, and birthday gifts via the Obama campaign. These are the pins that they sent me. I’m so proud of my daughters. They are special girls, and I always knew that they were destined to follow in my Democratic footsteps.

I’ll never forget a report that I received from oldest daughter’s teacher during a parent-teacher conference back in 1989. That was the year that Mikhail Gorbachev, the former President of the Soviet Union, allowed the destruction of the Berlin Wall. My oldest daughter and I had watched the wall come down on TV, and I told her that we were witnessing a great day in world history. A couple of days later, my daughter’s teacher asked her class to name a famous person that they would like to meet. My daughter announced that she wanted to meet Mikhail Gorbachev because he was the great world leader who let people tear down the Berlin Wall. The teacher replied by asking my daughter if she would like to meet President Reagan. My daughter wrinkled up her nose and said, "Eewww, he's a Republican."

God bless liberal children. Obama 08.


Blogger Medic61 said...

Haha, that's priceless! I hope I have free-thinking children some day as well :)

3:06 AM  
Blogger Elaine said...

Very many happy returns on your 29th birthday!

5:10 AM  
Blogger mojitogirl said...

Happy Birthday! Hanging on to 29 is tough to do. You've made a career out of it!

Gotta love our liberal children. Mine loves peace signs and Bob Marley. Consternates the heck out of her ultra-right grandmother, who in her day thought hippies and peace signs were all a Communist plot. Yup, that's my baby!

6:55 AM  
Blogger Nurse K said...

I did the same stuff when I was 9 too c/o my parents. [I can't believe even my hardcore Democrat parents would have allowed me to praise the commies though.]

Then I took economics classes, learned about how the world worked, and grew up. This is so lame...Reagan challenged Gorbachev to TEAR DOWN THIS WALL, for instance. I'm sure you didn't tell her that. :(

12:31 PM  
Blogger Jody said...

LOL ok what am I the Only Republican type blogger around here? Hehe. It's ok.

You can like Obama. It's a free country for sure.

..Oh and happy 29th..again!

3:50 PM  
Blogger Mother Jones RN said...

Hi Nurse K:

Oh…my…GOD! You come from liberal roots!? Now I know why I love you so much.

My children and I watched the news everyday together before they went off to school.
Home schooling wasn’t around yet, so their father and I tried to teach them as much as we could about the world as a way of supplementing their public school education. The world was changing so quickly back then, and we wanted our girls to understand that they were witnessing great historical events. Both my girls watched Reagan challenge Gorby to tear down the wall. Reagan was a great orator. But…..he was still a Republican. Just sayin’

I want to thank everyone for their birthday greetings. Enjoy your weekend.


4:52 PM  
Blogger Nurse K said...

My bra-burning mom is not voting for Obama. She is fed up with handouts and ever-increasing govt spending. She's not excited about the hundred or so billion dollars of new spending per year to give away more free health care, for instance. She works doing Medicare and Medicaid approvals for stuff for seniors and she says the fraud and unnecessary spending is rampant. Senior medicaiders get free housekeepers, free lawn services, $3000 ramps for their wheelchairs, stair lifts, and can have their children "take care of them" for pay as PCAs. They call her to bitch about a $3 copay. [There is rampant fraud with the PCAs---faking disability to get their children more money].

She also says Obama "rubs her the wrong way" (when asked to clarify, she said she had the feeling she was being scammed when listening to him, sorta like listening to a used car salesman). So, that's what your party is doing to the baby boomer hippies.

Being liberal has gone way too far, and, BTW, McCain is a RINO, so perhaps you should check his stuff out too and not immediately discount him. Liberals are going to turn this country into an overtaxed Western-Europe style clusterfuck where jobs are not created and more poverty is created.

If your daughter said "eew, he's a Republican", that shows the degree to which you educated her. I hope my son never says "eew, he's a Democrat". I don't think children are really capable of even understanding politics to any meaningful degree until at least high school. The maturity level for critical thinking and a more-than-basic understanding of economics and past political failures (ie the entire continent of Europe) is required to understand complex issues. Sadly, your daughter's response is not too far off of the response of many adults leftists in this country and those who have grown up beyond "eew, he's a Republican" should see the light and come to the dark side like my mom. Liberals have turned us into dependent, whiny thoughtless drones who are offended when asked to do for ourselves and succeed, one of the great things about being an American.


8:47 PM  
Blogger Mother Jones RN said...

Hey, Nurse K. Just curious. Do you and your mom have these kind of lively conversations over the dinner table? Is the rest of your family full of liberals? I still can't get over the fact that you come from blue state, liberal roots. I'm sure that your conservative friends will forgive you:-)


5:57 AM  
Blogger Nurse K said...

My mom reads my blog, for one, and we discuss various things when I go over there to drop off/pick up my son, etc. For example, I explained the mortgage crisis the other day and what Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac are etc. She asks me about various things all the time.

My mom was a liberal back when issues like women's rights were relevant. Her dad was a union boss at a meat plant. There was never an association of "liberal" and "lazy". When she grew up, people were expected to get married and have kids or, if male, work hard to feed said kids. Kennedy asked not what the country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. Now, it's all about "where's mine" and "Bush sucks"? Hardly a compelling message.

She, however, isn't, shall we say, overly educated on issues of economics and needs explanation at times. I believe there is a direct correlation between learning about economics and whether or not you end up liberal or conservative since leftist policies over and over have proven to increase, not decrease poverty and increase, not decrease, things like out-of-wedlock marriage and continuing poverty. It's really hard to be liberal after you know it just doesn't work and makes things worse. Between the high taxes, 20 percent unemployment rate in France and its abysmal cancer survival rates, for instance, socialism and "health care for all" doesn't work.

Now, like me, she works in a job where people abuse the system and she is getting sick of the never-ending handouts to people who don't contribute and who expect the working people to work harder so they can get their snow shoveled for free. She sees enough abuse where she doesn't have the liberal guilt thing working for her anymore. Her joke is that she's going to go on a 12 month vacation around the world and liquidate her assets so she can live like a queen when she's old.

Sadly, my party remains a big spending party too, but it's the lesser of two evils. It's the party that realizes people in deserts across the ocean are planning daily to kill us and care about us enough to prevent that from happening.

I can't say I've heard of any overtly conservative family members, although, like I said, my mom told me she will not be voting for Obama. I'm conservative because I know liberalism doesn't work.

3:54 PM  
Blogger Nurse K said...

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3:55 PM  
Blogger EE said...

Bravo, Nurse K, bravo.

4:43 PM  
Blogger rnjenny1 said...

Nurse K-Thank heavens there is more than one conservative out here. (I feel soo lonely sometimes.)
Ya gotta new blog junkie too.
Mother Jones--sigh--. To each their own.

6:02 PM  
Blogger Coty said...

*Accomplishments of Liberalism*
- Labor Laws:
Without these laws you would have been working 60-72 hours a week in a sweatshop at 11 years old. Do you appreciate overtime pay? Workplace safety? Triangle factory fire ring any bells? Collective bargaining?
- Women's Suffrage:
Oh my gosh, Women ARE actual people! Damn Susan B. Anthony!
- Environmental Laws:
Endangered Species Act...
anti-pollution laws...
The national emblem of the United States (the Bald Eagle, in case you didn't know) was saved from extinction by whiny thoughtless liberals
- Consumer Product Safety Commission:
undoubtedly saving the lives of thousands of children
- Space Program:
From landing on the moon
to providing cell phones
..John F. Kennedy was such a whiny drone
- Peaces corps:
"My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man."
*JFK was extremely thoughtless...silly liberal.
- Americans With Disabilities Act:
...civil rights for people with disabilities...OUTRAGEOUS!
- PBS:
Educational television (i.e. Sesame Street!)
- Family and Medical Leave Act
- Public Universities
- National Institute of Health and the Center for Disease Control

(just to name a few)

"If your daughter said 'eew, he's a Republican', that shows the degree to which you educated her."

On another note, do not question my mother and 'the degree to which she educated' her children.
The daughter in her story received a full ride academic scholarship to a state university (she must have done something right!).

"I don't think children are really capable of even understanding politics to any meaningful degree until at least high school."

You = education reform poster child

Did you ever stop to think that maybe YOU are the only one incapable of understanding politics until you were in high school?
Recipe for Peace
A published political piece I wrote when I was NINE. Go ahead and take a look at it, maybe you could learn something. Feel free to ask me about any of the big words.

"She also says Obama 'rubs her the wrong way'"

Such an educated response. I would expect nothing less from an adult working in a call center. Clearly... the degree to which SHE educated her children should be examined.

"Liberals are going to turn this country into an overtaxed Western-Europe style clusterfuck where jobs are not created and more poverty is created"

I believe CONSERVATIVES are the ones pushing for free trade relations w-o-r-l-d-w-i-d-e.
free trade =
exploitation of laborers
unfair wages
DANGEROUS and VIOLENT workplaces
(yeah, talk to Chinese factory workers about the sweet jobs that conservatives and wal-mart have provided them with.. while you're at it, GOOGLE image what free trade have done to this country... Detroit????)

"Being liberal has gone way too far, and, BTW, McCain is a RINO, so perhaps you should check his stuff out too and not immediately discount him."

No... he isn't.
I'll tell you what he is:

If John McCain ever even took the time to vote... he votes primarily conservative.


Bill Number: S 1042
Date: 11/10/2005
Summary: Prohibiting any US court, judge, or justice from hearing or considering writ of habeas corpus by or on the behalf of a non US citizen who is detained at Guantanamo Bay

John McCain:
"Waterboarding is torture; we're not going to torture people"
"Close Guantanamo Bay prison; announce no-torture policy"
"Torture [is] supported only by people without military experience"

Voted No:
*on preserving habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees
*on requiring CIA reports on detainees & interrogation methods

Voted Yes:
*on S 1042


"No official language; Native Americans use own languages"
"Give everyone in the world an opportunity to come to America"

Voted Yes:
*on declaring English as the official language of the US government
*on building a fence along the Mexican border


Voted No:
*on increasing tax deductions for college tuition
*on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation
*on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation
*on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes
*on background checks at gun shows
*on including prescription drugs under Medicare
*on spending $448B of tax cut on education & debt reduction
*on limiting soldiers' deployment to 12 months

Voted Yes:
*on using the Social Security Surplus to fund tax reductions
*on rejecting racial statistics in death penalty appeals
*on limiting death penalty appeals
*on loosening license & background checks at gun shows
*on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers
*on extending the tax cuts on capital gains and dividends
*on allowing some lobbyist gifts to Congress
*on banning affirmative action hiring with federal funds
*on permanent normal trade relations with China

1983: Voted against creating Martin Luther King Holiday
2000: McCain, disgracefully said he hated "gooks" in public for assembled reporters to hear during his previous presidential campaign

"I have witnessed incidents where he has used profanity at colleagues and exploded at colleagues. He would disagree about something and then explode. It was incidents of irrational behavior. We've all had incidents where we have gotten angry, but I've never seen anyone act like that."
-former Senator Bob Smith, Republican

"He is a vicious person."
"Nearly all the Republican senators endorsed Bush because they knew McCain from serving with him in the Senate. They so disliked him that they wouldn't support him. They have been on the hard end of his behavior."
-former Rep. John LeBoutillier, Republican

"The thought of [McCain] being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me."
-Senator Thad Cochran of Mississippi (McCain friend of 35 years)

"But that's an excellent question"
- Sen. McCain (after his own laughter subsided and 'funny' comments had been made by shouting supporters) when responding to, "How do we beat the bitch?"


love you mom!

6:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Viva Obama? God, I hope not, charming liar that he is. wink

And Happy Birthday Mother Jones!!


6:48 PM  
Blogger Nurse K said...

Gee Coty, you must not have read what I said. I described some of the historical reasons why my mom/her dad were liberal and how that stuff is not relevant to today's world which happened to be a lot of the stuff you mentioned. The history of liberalism does not concern me today. It did have a place back in the day. What concerns me is the incremental move toward socialism and a state intent on appeasement. Lincoln was a Republican and without Lincoln, the South probably wouldn't be part of America, blah blah blah. Irrelevant to today's world.

Your "yes" stuff for McCain is all stuff I agree with. Whew! It also re-affirms my fundamental disagreement with liberals---that "the rich" should not be demonized and that the Federal government should not have limitless access to their money and their businesses' money to redistribute to their voting base. "The rich" worked hard to get what they have and should not be the govt's ATM machine. "The rich" will never be in the majority by definition and the constant mantra of tax the rich to give something to the poor is taking advantage of a minority to appease the majority and is a dangerous precedent. Republicans hate gays, non-whites, and women is about as tired as it comes too. Very nine-year-oldish. If you really believe that, you must not have spent much time with Republicans.

I don't agree with parents indoctrinating young children into one political party or another. Nine-year-olds DO NOT possess the ability to critically evaluate that which their parents are telling them; thus, anything to do with politics is indoctrination. Yes, Coty, your mom indoctrinated you into the Democratic party.

If my son wants to talk about politics in high school, I'll recommend some good books on economics and let him make his own decision on whether the rich should be allowed to re-invest their money or be forced to give it to people who did not earn it. A nice graph of the decrease in poverty with Bush's welfare reform would be a good start.

When I see little kids carrying political signs, I get a little angry, actually. I certainly would not let my 8-year-old watch the news--not interested in explaining the decapitation of a bus passenger to him or "why" there is a war going on. He knows who soldiers are and knows they are brave and help keep bad guys out of our country. That's it. If a 8 or 9-year-old does not want "peace" when the alternative is "war", there is something wrong with the kid. Problem is, the breadth of knowledge is not extensive enough for the child to make the tough decision for "war".

Questioning my intelligence and my mom's intelligence is inappropriate and hopefully your mother will have a chat with you on that. I graduated high school with a 4.0 and nursing with a tad under despite getting knocked up (and NOT having an abortion) and working two jobs. My son is in 2nd grade and tested at a 4th grade level in math and a 6th grade level in reading and spelling. I just do not believe in indoctrination, catchphrases and "eewww, Democrats" as a part of his education nor for any child (despite the public school system thinking otherwise). He does, however, study Latin which I think is a good base for the logical and language development of a child. Logical analysis of something is a learned skill and many just do not possess the skills needed to analyze something. When the time comes to deal with politics, hopefully he'll be able to arrive at the correct decision for the time and place that he lives.

He goes to the top-performing elementary school in my state, where parents send their "bored" kids. You're not dealing with a pack of dummies here, Ms. Coty.

Obama wants change, and that change is going to be a change in my take-home pay. I can't agree with that.

10:42 PM  
Blogger Jean-Luc Picard said...

Children can always change sides when they grow up!

1:00 PM  
Blogger Nurse K said...

Yeah, but someone tell me the point of having a 9-year-old parrot your political ideas. That's like a weird self-esteem thing on the parent's part. I guess I don't need an elementary school kid to validate my political opinions by repeating them back to me or repeating them to his teacher. Kids can and should parrot other things like politeness, respect, please and thank you, and all the big words I use, but the politics thing is odd to me. It's obviously not for the kid, but for the parents at that age.

The 'blessed' liberal child is not a liberal child. The child is just a kid saying something that will make mom happy or like what mom says. A child can't be liberal nor conservative.

5:49 PM  
Blogger Mother Jones RN said...

Nurse K:

I’m a proud parent who loves her kids. What’s your beef? I pity you. You’ve had a very difficult life, and you don’t understand that you are supporting the very people that have exploited you. You are making demeaning comments about my children. If you want to debate issues, go for it, but keep your personal comments to yourself. Shame on you. Personal attacks about my family are not welcome on this blog.

12:27 AM  
Blogger Nurse K said...

Your daughter questioned my intelligence and my mom's intelligence. Without any other compelling argument to make as to why one would be in favor of things detrimental to our country, I guess that would be a natural response. In addition to personal and familial insults (my mom doesn't work in a call center, Coty, sorry), she came out with various yes/no things that resembled a DailyKos spam, and I addressed some of that too.

I didn't say anything about your kid specifically, only that I don't agree with her/your ideas on robbing Peter to pay Paul and the general concept of indoctrinating children into a political party in elementary school. If you think that children should be taught to dislike the party you're not in, you can go right ahead with that, but I see the influence of that type of "we're good/they're bad" upbringing in her personally hateful comments towards me and Republicans as a whole. We're pretty normal, you should hang out with us sometime. If brought up to think we were bad/racist/whatever, why would she want to though?

Indoctrination is the antithesis of critical thought, BTW. I just ask that other parents consider that idea when talking about politics with their young children, if at all.

1:06 PM  
Blogger EE said...

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7:17 PM  
Blogger Kristi said...

Nurse K. I've been on welfare in the past. I had to live in low-income housing and use food stamps. Be on Medicaid.

Does that make me a bad person?

In addition, we currently have no insurance and should we have to go to the ER for anything, I'd have to say that we're uninsured. Would that make us less than 'real people' in your eyes?

If I had to go to the ER for my back pain (should it get that bad)....would you roll your eyes at me when I'm not there looking for meds, but pain relief but still refer to me as a 'seeker'?

And, should I come into the ER, wearing an Obama pin (or T-shirt), in Arizona, with no insurance and an exacerbation of chronic back pain, would you be quick to judge me as a person or judge my situation?

I'll wait here. Thanks

7:47 PM  
Blogger Nurse K said...

I'm Republican. I'm waaay rich, hate all poor people and minorities.

No wait.

I was really poor too. Not "couldn't afford a cell phone" poor, like living in a trailer with no heat in the winter (sleeping on the floor next to the open oven works), no working sewage system for months (peed at the gas station or in a bucket, showered at the school health club). I am diabetic and bought my own insulin and strips out of pocket. Went to Minute Clinic. One thing I didn't do was apply for welfare. My relatives gave us meat from deer they hunted n stuff. I ate potatoes and oatmeal. Since I work hard, I got out of it though.

Chronic back pain can be managed at a clinic in 99.999% of cases. The ER is the place for life or limb/organ-threatening emergencies.

Most places have some sort of sliding-fee clinic you can go to where they calculate the fee for a visit based on your income. Here is a website that will help you if you're from Arizona. If I were your nurse in AZ, I'd give you your ibuprofen prescription and a list of these clinics and hope you went to one of them to manage your CHRONIC problem in a non-acute care setting as is the custom for such problems.

9:10 PM  
Blogger David Catron said...

Women's Suffrage: Oh my gosh, Women ARE actual people! Damn Susan B. Anthony!

As it happens, Coty, women's suffrage was blocked by the Democrats until the Republicans took over both houses of Congress in 1918. It was a Republican-controlled Congress that passed the 19th Amendment and sent it to the states.

Many of the other things you list are also Republican accomplishments. Do your homework. It will make you a better (more informed) voter.

10:44 PM  
Blogger Mother Jones RN said...

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11:08 PM  
Blogger Mother Jones RN said...

Hello David:

I'm honored. I didn't know that anyone from the American Spectator was interested in my blog. It's so nice to have a republican attack dog drop by. There was a time when your party was on the right side of issues. Those times are long gone. The GOP has been highjacked by the far right. I know many life time republicans that are going to vote for Obama. That’s right! Many of your own members can’t stand your party anymore. Believe it or not, the late U.S. Senator Craig Thomas was my cousin. For those who may not know, Craig was Republican. He wasn't like you, David. Craig and I didn’t agree on politics, but he was a very descent man who worried about the future of his party. Craig listened to people, he didn't attack them. Best of all, he didn’t mind having liberals in the family.

I wrote a nice post about my birthday, and it was smothered in poison. I want to thank all of you for proving my point. Thank God for liberal children. They are the only ones that can save the world from people like you.

This discussion is now closed.

11:56 PM  

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